The needles are great needles but because of the description I gave them a 4 instead of a 5. These are 7 turn tights which means the needle configuration is much tighter than the "regular" 7 turn spacers. They produce a line more like 3-5 rl. I agree (because the 7 needles create a smaller line, the needles bend a lot less), but they just need to let people know they're getting 7 tights.
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