They look great and give a lot of light. I have installed them in joist soffits, skirting soffits and regular ceilings. So far they look great, give off lots of light and are easy to install. Easy to paint in any color you want. I would buy them and not waste your time buying the 12 watt version. I did it and there really is no difference. In particular, no difference of 8 watts.
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