My son had Roper loafers which he loved but he just outgrew the Big Kid sizes and switched to youth sizes. Roper doesn't make these shoes in youth sizes, there's a gap, I think they expect that once you're not a big kid you're a man straight away. Ha no! So I looked for other brands and found this one. He didn't want laces, and the leather on the tongue is thin and flimsy so it always gets in the way when you put your foot in a boot. And he's a boy, so they probably won't last long. I sent these back.
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