First I bought a mid loft bed which was also meant to be a training stand no no. Learning to work, stay still, take a break, or relax, which should also be a place to sleep, is totally ineffective. Not to mention that they are all very unstable. The Blue-9 climbing table is definitely effective. Start with no legs, and once you reach the max time, add legs and start over. The only thing is that you definitely need to buy a rubber pad to put them on, otherwise they will slip off and never come back on it. In my opinion they should come together and not separately, especially since you're paying a lot more than it's worth. I believe that it should have everything to make the dog feel comfortable. Very overpriced, but unfortunately there aren't many other options that will work if you're not a carpenter and can't build one. It's not buyable, so be careful when using it.
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