I really like using them because sometimes I don't want to wear a tie pin or tie pin and they hold my tie in place well. I'll be ordering more so I can have them ready on the shirts I'm posting for the week. I'm not complaining, I'm just saying that I've often taken them off my shirts and put them in an inconspicuous place. Later, because they become transparent and invisible, I can't always find them. It's my fault for not being more organized about how and where I put them. That way I get more in case I accidentally mix them up or lose them! :-)
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