So it's an improvement over the 5.11 Recon trainers I have, but still leaves a lot to be desired. They're durable and comfortable, but tactical shoes aren't made for all conditions. While the Scouts have been full-on for the most part, they have a bit more support, but as far as water or mud runs end up being a mess. It would have been much better if the suede-like material was leather. Because of this, the toes and sides scratch very easily and are damn difficult to clean. I wanted them…