I wear a size 8, even a size 8 doesn't fit me. So I ordered the 9th, it was too big, then I got the 8.5. It fits well. I have other Cole Haan moccasins and they are a size 8. Since shoe manufacture left the US, nothing is standard anymore. Shop where there is free shipping as the chances of getting the right shoes are less than 50%. The shoes themselves are very good. I used to buy this style from LL Bean. Their current offering is from Vietnam and lacks the quality and style of their previous…