Guess I'm switching to LED's from now on. I used to be 1 of the offenders of putting HID's in halogen housings, honestly cuz I needed to c, at the expense of other peoples eyes. I apologize. With these that is not the case. They are as bright as 30w HID's. Not 60w HID's but a millions x better than halogen. Even in halogen housing they can be aimed not to blind people and aren't bright enough to, but definetly illuminate the road. My old halogens were there just to let other people know I was onSee full review