I tried both a size 9 and 8.5 from two different online companies. I first ordered a 9 which is my usual size boots, this was also my first introduction to the world of Frye boots so i was nervous when i read to order a half size down by most reviews on several different sites. I then ordered the 8.5 from ebay, which was a better price. They arrived in no time. As mentioned by many, there will heel slippage regardless, although this was not as noticeable with the 8.5. In fact, the only reason i See full review