First I would like to say that they look good and I would recommend these shoes. Ordering shoes online can always be risky. I wear size 12D, but often shoemakers make sizing, which is stitching, only big enough for a medium size, they are made in China, so the risk is even greater. Like a size 12, they were roomier than expected. This allows you to wear thicker socks, which comes in handy when winter is approaching. The soles are shaped to wear out quicker than the Vibram outsole, but the tread