We live where there are hard water stains, so stains in the toilet are permanent. So far we have a permanent ring in our shell. I was always skeptical of these pumice stones because I thought they were meant to scratch. You are not. I had to rub a little, but nothing serious. He cleaned the ring as well as the black mold around the holes under the top of the toilet. I also liked that I could get them without the plastic handle. After using them, I realized that any other brand of pen would be useless because once the wand falls apart, which is part of the cleaning process, the pen won't save your hand from getting wet (just more unnecessary plastic to throw at). removed.) They seem a bit expensive, but no more expensive than other brands and sellers of this product. I like that there were six in the deal. I shared one with my sister. Now she's addicted. I love her
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