Deleted the previous review. I have 3 pairs of these shoes: black wool 8 wide; green 8W and dark blue 7.5W. There are larger sizes (8W) that can be worn with thicker socks in cold weather. I've only worn black a few times for 1-2 hours and have never worn green. I wore dark blue socks with thin socks or with closed socks. Now it's obvious that if I wear them all day (ie 8 hours) my feet are killing me so much I HAVE TO TAKE THE FUCKING SHOES OFF β NOW! You're only ok for a few hours. The outer part is good ie does not slip but I find it too thin. I can try a different insole, otherwise I'll try a different shoe. I like non-slip shoes unless I'm going for a long walk (hiking shoes); Wool in 8W is fine (but I don't wear it for more than a few hours), maybe because I wear thicker socks so they cushion better. I will buy Vionics.
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