Folks, this is a heavy duty belt indeed. I was looking for something that would prevent the waistband of my jeans from buckling over my belt. not that I'm fat or anything. This product makes it possible! It probably won't fit in your chinos, that's not really what it's designed for. a fine belt like mine and I have several Trafalgars. Again no belt with the dress, but with jeans a bargain at twice the price.
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