The liner is terrible. With difficulty finds his thumb and sticks it in the sink. I'm assuming they're defective as one looks a little worse than the other. My daughter finds them annoying and every time they are removed I have to move the thumb area and reposition it relative to the sink. Forget it once they get wet. The sleeve is a great idea, wish I had one as a kid but other than that these are the worst mittens we have. Big disappointment.
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