About 7 years ago I discovered Mission Straps because I was bored with the traditional straps with loops and pins. I've tried military style belts, I've tried suspenders, but nothing has worked to any degree. Then I found mission belts at Revain and ordered one. Ordered a second one 7 years later. Not because the first one broke (it still works great), but because I wanted a nylon one with a black buckle. This should tell you everything you need to know.