I have been using hold-down devices for many years. The new boys were amused by this so I ordered a few more for them to try. Today my old Stinger died and I installed Forney, not very well. The 3/32 rod gets stuck in the handle, the 1/8 and 5/32 rod is not released when turning the handle, it must be pulled out. I am ashamed that I gave them away. The only thing I like is the feel of the grip, a little less chunky than my old one.