Overall I like my new Lugz. I searched for shoes on Prime Try and Buy where I searched for casual shoes. I had never heard of this brand before (colleagues later corrected me that it was well known). They are comfortable and have replaced my old sketchers. I love these new shoes apart from one complaint which is the only reason I gave it 4 stars out of 5. The heel could have been better padded (explained below). I have a hefty 250 and maybe my heels are sensitive or because of my size but I have heel pain when wearing them. I got some high performance insoles and pulled out the Lugz insoles and my feet are happier again. These shoes fit well, do not slip or pinch. These are also economical. With the outer border, the underside (inner sole?) was darker. You can see the dirt so easily on white.
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