If you are thinking of buying this, don't. Your other products are great. But this belt looks, feels and wears like it came from a Walmart store. Its subtle and cheap feel. I've been wearing it for 3 days today and it has already developed a hard hole crease. If I wanted a cheap genuine leather belt, I would just go to Walmart. I will never believe this is whole grain. Again, the other products have been great, but this one sucks. I am extremely disappointed