These tailgate struts from Vepagoo Auto are impressive (better than the factory stanchions for my 2008 Honda Pilot). an inch shorter than the Vepagoo Auto Racks. If you remove only one of the factory Honda Pilot outriggers, the other "OLD" outrigger will not extend far enough to install the new Vepagoo Auto outrigger. I almost returned these AMAZING outriggers from Vepagoo Auto until I read a similar review from another outrigger supplier (again a Honda Pilot owner). A simple solution. Remove BOTH old Honda struts and then the tailgate pops out an additional 9/16" for easy installation of the Vepagaoo Auto struts (and they're better as they have a bit more room in the last part). a few inches of extension and they raise the tailgate an additional 1-2 inches over the old Honda support legs). Well done Vepagoo car! And thank you!