We have a two story house with railings and metal bars. We needed a gate to keep the dogs in the driveway on muddy days, but the gate was shallow. Those Y spindles worked great. We needed two sets because we had two gates with an outside wall and an inside railing. You have to keep in mind that this pack comes with two Y spindles, so it's enough to make one side of the gate. Y spindles have a long shank (4 inches) so I had to cut a set off because the overall width of the gate and spindle became too wide and didn't fit. However, I needed the length of the second set because the width between the wall and railing was wider, so I was happy with the length. It's easier to deal with too much length than too little!
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