These hair ties are very thin - a strand is about 1/3 the width of goody hair ties. Shown on the left is the Goody tie, on the right the Mini Hope tie.) I have thin hair and it just doesn't have enough thickness or thickness to hold my ponytail. I tried using 2 or 3 together which worked but found that they stretch and don't hold their shape. The elasticity is completely insufficient. The colors are beautiful and they may work for children's hair, but they are not suitable for a normal adult, even with fine hair.
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