I am 5ft 10" and 150lbs. My waist (women's waist) is 30 inches in circumference. The top of my thigh bone (male waist) is 32.5 inches in circumference. The widest part of my hips (women's hips) is 39 inches in circumference. The widest part of my thigh measures 19.5 inches in circumference. The widest part of my lower leg is 15 inches in circumference. The distance from the crotch to the ankle is 31 inches. From the tip of my middle finger to my wrist bone is 8.5 inches. My palm is 4 inches wide. I ordered the size listed as "M=30=Waist 32". They fit me like straight women's trousers or narrow men's trousers: close to the buttocks and thighs, well cut out on the legs. I think these pants would be a great option for my bike and also a good option to wear without armor if I want something more durable than regular jeans. From the outside, the material looks like heavy work pants, I can't say anything about the feel of the inside. They didn't bother me even when they were fed. The pants' workmanship is better than I expected: back pockets and lining are sewn in at the top* and bottom* to keep them from moving or bunching; The knee pads and waist pockets are properly sized to ensure correct pad placement; And the outer pockets are big enough for wallets, keys, phones and other small items without looking too baggy. My only complaint is that the back waistband doesn't stretch as much as I'd like, so there's a decent gap that can be exposed to the weather if you have a stock. This problem can be solved by going up a size or wearing a stiffer belt, but this is not a determining factor. All photos were taken with *thigh and knee armor* except for the 3/4 and front views (Revain seems to be rearranging the images) which have the pads removed for comparison.
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