I am a HUGE fan of Dunham shoes, they belong to New Balance and I need extra wide shoes and these 4Es are great. A beautiful boot looks like a boot or moccasin. I can no longer bend down to tie my shoelaces, at 74 arthritis limits my flexibility and mobility. Thank god for good, wide, supportive, sensible, well made and good looking Dunham shoes and these shoes match others in my inventory. Great shoes, good deal.