I was very surprised when I received these elastics, the velvet on these elastics is dense and the fabric seems to be of good quality like what you can buy in Ultra or City stores as they are medium sized. So if you have thick hair for dinner, they may not suit you. My hair is medium width so it's perfect for me, it can curl 3 times but I have found that some hair ties are a bit tighter or smaller than others and only curl 2 times. But then again, I think they're great if you have fine to medium-width hair. Good buy, I'm a bit sad as I was missing 4 scrunchies but no big deal. Maybe it was a different confusion than what I recommended
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