We really liked these shoes. It looked great and we knew it would last our son long enough for him to outgrow it. BUT these shoes run VERY small. We ordered 1.0 size larger than he is comfortable wearing now and his foot barely fits in. As a result, we ordered Union Bay loafers in the same size 8.5. The attached photos will give you an idea of the size difference between Lugz (black with rubber sole) and Union Bay (blue with white sole). Both shoes are men's size 8.5. We would have also ordered a size 1.5 from Lugz, but this shoe size was too expensive for our purpose.
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