At 14", on full ice (especially on asphalt), there is no better nokian hakkapeliitta 8 rubber, but it is discontinued. They searched, overpaid, bought it. At competitions, since last year, Nokian Tires Nordman 8 appeared (an exact copy of the premium hakkapeliitta 8), the results show as the original. Over the years, the community (vk. Com/beDRIFTcup) has run in all worthy types of rubber. This one is at the top of the food chain. Personally, I now have a hakka 8 on a combat vehicle, and a Norman (not a Zhiguli; 16 ") on a civilian vehicle, everything is gorgeous. The climate of Hong Kong.