These pair of pants are great! I give them a 10 for quality. Plenty of pockets. I got mine a little larger than my actual size. I am 33 at the waist and order a 34. They fit perfectly for me and I do like them a little loose. These are my on duty pants and I need to move around in them, so I am not looking for something that fit tightly. I probably will order another the pair. I like these much better than my 5.11s
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