That's all I ever wanted. The hours of searching are over. They are very soft; In fact the softest in this category of clothing. I've been making modal shorts since about 2016. These are the softest I know. I like the drawstring feature because these shorts lose their stretch potential over the years. The tie keeps things in order. They look good and I have no problem wearing them outside the house as they don't look like sleep shorts at all. You fit like a cloud. The pockets are deep and everything is neatly sewn. I am a very happy customer and quickly bought about eight pairs after my first experience.