If you're buying this as a "gun sling" or planning to use it for EDC, run it. This belt is very flimsy, with poor layout and design, and to be honest, just what you would expect for $13. I bought my last belt that I've been using for over a year from Amazon for about $20 and when it finally failed I decided to try this one because it was cheap and had good reviews. It is better not to wear a belt or use a shoelace than to use one. Customer support was also bad. I think it must have been a broken belt based on the good reviews. I contacted the seller and said I think I received a defective strap and they simply ignored my request for a refund or replacement.