don't lie these mats are really good just buy the thickness it's about 1/4 inch thick, about 1/2 inch thick etc but sucks because they My wife has the car over the weekend/summer, which is good for the season and I really don't want to screw it up in the winter. All in all, if you are looking for carpets for your civilian car, here they are, they came quickly, the box was not torn and the bag was sealed! (By the way, I plan to clean and maybe paint the carpet, fearing that the carpets are too clean for civilians now. I'm meticulous sometimes :)
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