I ended up sending these boots back and just ordering the taupe colored Timberlands. I love those so much more but probably for one main reason beyond quality. These very wide in the foot and ankle for me. Even tied as tightly as possible the boot had a sort of a poof to it around my lower ankle and top of my foot. They sadly did not give me the ankle support I was looking for so back they went with not much trouble. These boots did not arrive in a shoe box— just in a mailer bag but with no flaws. I wear a size 8 narrow in shoes without socks and an 8.5 in running shoes and those than run a big smaller. Pretty color— true to photo.
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