I bought a pair of Belgians in New York as a teenager and if you look at their website they are not for sale online. Okay ok I'm a busy stay at home parent and I just wanted comfortable shoes that weren't sneakers, would like to go with similar shoes. Found these in brown which is more reminiscent of rusty orange but reminds me of the interior color of a fine car so not bad. I am female and my shoe size is 10.5 ladies and 8s are perfect, stretched a little in an hour of wear and now fit like a dream! Comfortable, supportive and of good quality. Favor the rubber soles on these tbh over the leather soles on the originals for excellent traction and durability. I've bought them in two other colors, beige and black, in case they ever go out of sale. Just do it!