UPDATED Had to give them up. The legs were just too tired, especially on long hikes or running in circles 2 days in a row. You need to take 1 size smaller. These are pretty sloppy on bumps. Slipping into boots on uneven loungers. For flat terrain they are quite good. I found my legs got a bit tired towards the end of a round with them. Sloppyness and a slightly weaker sole are certainly the reason for this. But they are light and seem to be breathing normally.
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