I first used these crimp beads in a class I was teaching. The students (beginners) threaded the beads and when they were done I attached the crimp bead. 8 of the first 10 crimp beads I tried to split into 2 by scattering the beads all over the table. Going to bigger (too big) helped a bit. I had to track down my personal supply of crimp beads and collect 3 bracelets at home that evening and have them delivered the next day. Also, I cannot return these beads as the storage container lid was so difficult to open that I almost spilled it. the second smallest size tries to rotate it. I cannot recommend this product. Sometimes the deal isn't
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