Dockers used to be a good product, well made, comfortable. No longer! I bought these for my husband for Father's Day and it so happened he bought the same pair and they both arrived a few days apart. He tried on a pair I bought him and they were uncomfortable. He said the insole was rough and scratchy. I found the "insert" which I felt should have been glued onto the insole was very thin and underneath what he felt was hard and rough. Also, the top edge of the heel was sharp and cut into the back of his ankle. So he tried another pair and got almost the same results. He tried his own bets, but it didn't work. Both pairs have been returned.