I ordered these shoes for my 4.5 year old who wears 9 or 10 toddlers depending on the shoe. I chose to use their chart instead of ordering his size. His foot was 6 1/4 inches, which according to their chart is 6 inches. I ordered 8 to give him space. They came up and his toe was tight at the very beginning and heel at the very end with no room to maneuver. I returned them and ordered 10 to give him room to grow. I had to order his size. The shoes are adorable and look like they would be perfect for a summer on Lake Superior.
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