I'm petite, 5'7" to 5'5" so a size 4 is perfect for me. My son had 4 pairs of Keens so I decided to try these to replace my 17 year old campers. Unfortunately they don't fit me. . Every time you flex your foot to take a step, this metal rivet also flexes and digs into the top of your toe joint. OW.2) The outsole is insanely thin. I tried on shoes in the kitchen where there is grout on the tiles. I felt every grout line! It's so strange, even flip flops have thicker soles than these. If you walked on gravel in it? OW.3) The material of the insole is rubbery, a bit like a water shoe, rather than fabric. It is strange,
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