I like these shoes if you are looking for a flat comfortable shoe for climbing in the gym etc. I think my ideal size would be 1/2 or entirely smaller than street shoes. However, I found the rubber unacceptable. Compared to the Five Ten Stealth C4 pad that I'm used to, or the Vibram XS Edge pad that Scarpa uses on more expensive models, this pad is quite slippery. It was very difficult for me to trust my legs like I used to. For this reason I cannot recommend this shoe. If you're between that and the Force V, I'd definitely go for it to get the best rubber.
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