So they didn't really fit what I bought them for and now I can return them which always sucks. I think I didn't read the description enough or I would have known when I bought it. It would be nice if they maybe explained more clearly that this is for gaming via computers and not necessarily intended to replace the wired controllers that come with retro gaming consoles (the cables are very short and bothersome so I looked for wireless ones ). not that lol!).