More than two years have passed since I became the owner of the first version of this product (non-removable cable and 150 ohm). In summary, I can say the following: The filling, namely the speakers themselves are very good. As well as a convenient design. But are they worth 11 (for me 13) thousand - no. If we are considering games and voip clients, then for them you can take anything in the range of 5-7 thousand without any sound cards, etc. - the sound quality will be enough for you. But if you still decide to take these headphones for some reason of your own, then by no means buy the 150th (although they were removed from sale, they could remain with retailers). This is immediately minus the reliability in the form of a non-detachable cable and high performance, which will put a spoke in your wheels at tournaments or any lan events where ordinary $1 realtek are on cheap motherboards. In them you will hear everything as if through the most Bichovsky, Chinese mp3 player. Yes, smart people will say that for 150 ohms you can buy an external sound system with an amplifier for headphones and go wherever you want and don’t worry. But it's still + and so to a considerable cost. How cost-effective is this? To play dota or cs with a team, where the sound is recorded through a tape recorder on a cassette and then digitized (I can’t find another explanation for this quality) any headset is enough for about 5 For reference, soundinfo from csgo is bits/sample:16; Rate 44100. Most likely the same in DotA. Also, be prepared to change your ear pads every year and clean them every day if you sit continuously for more than 3 hours a day. In general, good headphones with serious flaws. They have a place to be, but their maximum price is 8 thousand. Not more. For gaming, you should definitely try headphones with 7.1 sound (not virtual). I think the positioning in such will be much better, and the quality . it is not so important with such a mediocre source. The main thing is that the implementation in games is normal. But the stereo is still more for music . whatever one may say.