This is a large medium size. You sit awkwardly. Unfortunately, they are also just not very warm. I'm not exactly sure what these gloves are for. If it's not very cold outside, you don't need gloves. When it's cold, these gloves aren't for me because they don't insulate enough. Just like a pair of driving gloves or similar, they still don't work very well in cool weather as they are too loose. not a fan of these gloves.
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