I love to paint my own designs on sweatshirts and t-shirts. I used to use cheap paint from my local Wal-Mart but I saw these pens and thought they would be easier for fine lines and such, especially after seeing some of the posts and videos here. It looked simple and easy. It's not like this. Using these pens on regular t-shirt material is rough and feels like using a plain old Crayola washable marker. Maybe it would be a little easier with a smoother fabric. They draw well on paper, so I guess I'll leave them for that reason. They stay on the skin for a long time. Unfortunately a disappointment. But I don't think it's completely useless. It's like having a bunch of colorful markers now. never mind
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