Maybe I'll change my mind when I test them with a sound card from Asus Phoebus. On the note there is also Roccat Kave 5.1 XTD and Tiamat 7.1 Time passed, fobas appeared. sound card. Well, the sound has become better, but there is no bass. Maybe it's cool for esports players to hear steps better. But I like bass. And I advise you to take Roccat Kave 5.1 XTD digital. For 8k they offer more and better.