These are not N*** or P*** or A*****. I never heard of them before now, but these are just going to the gym for a beat-down or on my walking trail so. Okay, for the price I gave them a try. Great fit. Nice padding (not overstuffed). Very good sole grip and traction. Order your normal size, there's truth in these shoes. Save some money and get that same performance you've been getting. Unless you're a "brand snob".