I ordered a Large (12) and an X-Large (16) for my 16 1/2 year old son who has a 28 waist and both were too small for him. My son is very skinny, too small to fit in most men's convertible pants. I ordered a size for a boy but the groin and hips were too tight. He couldn't sit at all. I didn't even bother opening the big one because the X-big was tight. Be sure to order one size larger.
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