FYI I read a review on the OR website that mentioned a similar size for me and he did almost wanted to choose M. I talked to him. The rep is OR and he said L. So I wear 11.5-12 boots, my winter boots are 11.5 Asolo Titan GTX. I have size L in both Verglas and normal crocodiles. According to the size chart I should be size XL. I ordered an L from Expeditions and they are too "tight" at the bottom. I put them on my L Crocs and they're basically a full width of the Velcro wider. Almost 2 inches. They need to be snug for winter use so I just sent them back and tried the medium size. If you have technical mountaineering winter boots designed for great edging etc and these aren't much bulkier than regular boots. , it's too big i think.
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