They came in Wagner ThermoQuiet packaging but they are not a Wagner product. They were painted grey, chipped and the ceramic material wasn't divided into 3 sections like real TQ pads, just one solid piece of ceramic. Possibly old QS pads as new QS pads are also divided into 2 sections. With all that being said, I've had them on my 05 Cobalt Coupe for about a week, and while they're not as impressive as my last set of TQ pads that I bought at my local AP store ($61.99 ), they're quiet and don'tโฆ