I ordered 36 and got XXL. So the landing wasn't very good. My estimate is a 38-40 inch waist. I can't say anything about the fit, but the quality is quite decent. The fabric is stretchy but not too heavy and heavy enough that I'm not afraid of my keys tearing a hole in the fabric. They would make good mountain bike shorts if you buy them the right size. I'll try them with a belt and see if I can turn them into breeches. If I had gotten the right size I would have given 4-5 stars.
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