I am a size 10-12 depending on the clothing. I ordered a 13, just in case, because I have more of a square waist and small hips, butt and legs. I have had 6 surgeries on my abdomen and I can't stand anything sitting at or above my belly button putting pressure on it, these pants, even a size larger than I normally wear, were snug in the waist. It hurt after awhile and I had to pin them to keep them off my abdomen. The legs and butt were way too big for my shape. As far as quality goes, they wereSee full review