These are real wood fire sticks, not plastic like I thought. The cups will not fit Ford Flathead valves or Alice-Chalmers D15 valves. Maybe they work on smaller valves? On a flat head, a cup of the same size hung on the inlet, the same cup did not fit the exhaust. The next cup was too small to start a real fire. They are suitable for much smaller single-piston engines. So if you're cruising the BBC's SBF BBF SBC at midnight, you're unlikely to be taken on a race day or Saturday night cruise.